A champagne socialist reflects on Western culture and the Universe... and whilst gazing at his navel, he comes up with a lot of useless lint. It is the fruits of this navel-gazing that form the substance of this blog.
Part 4 in the quintology
Published on October 7, 2004 By Champas Socialist In Politics
We're almost there. For those of you who haven't been following the series, a friend recently asked me to name one thing John Howard had done wrong as PM. So I sat down and found a couple. Today, the issues are free speech, welfare and lies.

Free Speech & Civil Rights
69. Our spy agencies can now detain anyone if ASIO thinks that person just might have information relating to terrorism. They don’t have to provide any evidence. They don’t have to give access to legal representation to these people. They don’t even have to tell anyone that they are detaining the person. They can also detain the person for as long as they want. No limits. Carte blanche.

70. Anyone who has taught or trained a “terrorist” can now be jailed. This includes their uni lecturers, school teachers, or home tutors. There is nothing in the legislation to say they have to have taught the person about terrorism. Talk about Orwellian!

71. If you join an organisation that seems perfectly legit and normal, but much later, perhaps well after you’ve left, becomes what the Government decides is a terrorist organisation (and it’s definition of that is pretty broad), you can be jailed for having once been a member.

72. David Hicks should have been detained as a prisoner-of-war, and thus released when the war was over, as would be normal procedure for capturing an enemy soldier. You shoot em or keep em as POWs. Instead Hicks was jailed for years without charges even being laid, when charges were laid they were trumped up amateurish sounding rubbish charges. Why? Because they’re making up the rules as they go. Ruddock’s justification for not ensuring Hicks an Australian trial is that we don’t have the laws to convict him. To me that means we shouldn’r convict him. We don’t send Australians around the world when people haven’t broken Australian laws.

73. Journos are given much less time to analyse major reports before they have to inform the Australian public about them.

74. Wasted thousands of dollars on ABA head David Flint when Flint kept on having to excuse himself from board investigations because he was biased and corrupt.

75. Tried to weaken our Anti-Discrimination laws.

76. Howard holds much fewer doorstop press conferences than any of his predecessors. This gives us less opportunity to question him and inquire after explanations about how he is using our money. Government is less open under Howard.

77. Public servants who don’t go pro-Howard are either ignored, demoted, investigated or charged under the Secrets Act. What ever works to shut them up.

78. Journalists used to be able to apply real pressure on the PM by getting up close and personal and fire questions from all directions during doorstops. We got a real chance to see if the PM was across the issues facing the country. Now Howard stands behind a podium, miles away from the journos, in front of an Australian flag to show us just how patriotic he is and he selects only the questions he wants to answer.

79. Ripped down the Aboriginal Tent Embassy that has sat on the lawns of Parliament House for decades. It was world-renowned and it was one of the greatest political statements ever made. It was one of the few ways Aboriginal Australians could ensure they weren’t ignored by our white Government. It was possibly the greatest political statement in Australian history. Silenced by John Howard.

80. Introduced wedge politics by banning marriages between Australians in love with someone of the same sex. His justification was that they do not reproduce. Yet if this was really the reason then why did he not seek to ban marriages for heterosexuals who cannot reproduce or who choose not to? The real reason is that he wants to impose his religious persuasion on the rest of us and restrict rights for ordinary Australians in the process.

81. Slashed funding to the ABC because it wasn’t as pro-Howard as Alan Jones and Andrew Bolt.

82. Forced twenty-five year old children’s news service Behind The News (BTN) off the air.

Lies, Lies and More Bloody Lies

83. (plus 27) The Labor party has been rather conservative in listing only 27 Lies, but you can find them through the sidebar links. I noticed Johnny claiming that Aboriginal Health had improved under him. He’s either not bothered to be informed or he lied.

Welfare And other Issues
84. Bowed to pressure from the multi-million dollar gambling industry to exclude horse racing from his anti-online gambling legislation because he has his hands in their pockets.

85. Has done nothing to help those with gambling addictions in the community, unlike Latham’s excellent policies to help ordinary Australians. (I don’t like Lataham , but these policies are good).

For more information, follow the sidebar link to “What Howard’s Done Wrong List”. Sarah, in the words of Muggaz,
BAM!!!!

Comments
on Oct 08, 2004
This is so tough, so many bigoted opinions (not facts) to tackle. I know I haven’t been around to take them on one at a time so you’ll just have to deal with it. It must be nice having so many people reading your blog who, like you, don’t actually think facts matter. I’ll stick to the blatant crap first and if I can be bothered I’ll go deeper. Shouldn’t be too hard.

I’ll start where you did and follow, first is health.

Your points on Medicare and such have been disputed before. The ageing population will cost more and more to look after, it’ll be impossible to keep it how it is, or was or how Latham wants it for any length of time. Medicare Gold is a farce, it’s unfunded which is proven by Labours failure to get it in to treasury on time. Even if next week we find out it is funded it’ll be too late. How can we trust it if it hasn’t been confirmed? At least the coalition has put it’s major policies, if not all of them, in to be funded.

Now to actually target just a few.
13. Did not try to make sure medicines for ordinary Australians would stay cheap after an FTA with the USA. Our PBS is the envy of the rest of the world and Howard would rip it apart if Latham hadn’t stopped him.

14. Tried to force pensioners and everyone onto the private health system.

15. Private health premiums have gone up under Howard.
13. What the? Latham voted to increase the cost. Also it may be the envy of poor people all over the world but Governments and economists around the world would be saying it has to die a hard death.

14. As before, the government won’t be able to afford them forever, the more people paying their own way the more the government can spend on other things.

15. And that’s his fault? How has he contributed to poor diets and as a result sicker people and the cost of medical equipment and care increasing?

Now for the environment. Your three points (16-18) reek of baseless ignorance. Here’s a fact for you; 17,800 scientists from all strands of science signed a petition stating “Research data on climate change do not show that human use of hydrocarbons (such as fossil fuels) is harmful.” Global climate change has been around for as long as scientist can figure out. The earth’s temperature has always varied and there is no evidence to say that anything we are doing is changing it. We couldn’t even hope to raise the CO2 levels in the atmosphere to even slightly dangerous levels. Here’s some really simple science to back it up – plants turn CO2 into O2. The Kyoto protocol is green based nonsense.

Aborigines.

ATSIC was racist, pure and simple. Multiculturalism is about different races coming together, not being segregated. Not to mention the leadership sucked.

And for the last time, there was no “stolen generation.” I’ve stated that using facts, not opinions. No report, inquiry, investigation, search, probe, inquest or anything else has ever found a single legitimate “stolen” child. It’s a left wing myth.

Foreign Affairs.

I’m not too worried about most of the stuff you’ve raised, not because I a agree but pretty much all of what you’ve said is opinions but I will grace some of what you’ve said with replies.

I know that the greens have the pie-in-the sky view that we don’t need a defence force (don’t deny it, I’ve read their policies) but the fact is we do. And I’m not sure that consulting with your neighbours about upgrading your own defence is really needed. The only reason I can see for them needing to know is if they’re up to no good.

As for pre-emptive strikes, what the heck is your problem? You’d prefer to have Australians dead then have to deal with a little discomfort in the relationship with our neighbours for a little while? You’d put terrorists lives above our own? Besides if a neighbouring country wants to harbour terrorists then who wants them as friends anyway?

Whinging about lack of spare parts when you support the greens is hypocritical. They don’t even want an army.

As for Iraq, how many different reports have to say that Howard did nothing wrong? Whether or not you like it, he acted on the evidence he had available and freed a nation of people from an oppressive, sadistic leader. Build a bridge.

Murali? What made you think to bring him into this? Besides, once again, facts don’t seem to bother you; he is a chucker.

Point 39. Have you forgotten the other countries who joined with the “Coalition Of The Willing” which oddly enough wasn’t called the Coalition of the US and Australia?

Now for one of my favourites…
41. Diverted resources away from breaking up JI to conquer Iraq
Lol, those extra 300ish troops would have helped in case of a terrorist attack hey? That’s like a poofteenth of our armed forces.

Economy.

Tax cuts to lower income earners were given out in previous budgets when the higher income earners didn’t get any. Just because they didn’t get them this time around it is ridiculous to say that they haven’t had them. On a side note, you keep saying he should spend more on just about everything but then want him to cut the amount of money he gets which sounds a little stupid.

The FTA was agreed to by a majority vote in both the house of reps and the senate. Independent inquires gave it the thumbs up. The fact is that of course their will be some losers, it’s called compromise. The fact (oh no that word again) is that overall it is strongly positive for the large majority of Australians. A smaller note on if American TV is better then ours then bring it on, I’m not a big fan of watching crap shows because they’re Australian. If they can’t compete on a level playing ground then they don’t deserve to be there. Same with the car industry.

59. The RBA says they are going to have to increase interest rates very soon.

60 Housing prices have roughly tripled!!!! Who cares about low interest rates when a house costs more total anyway?!
What does the independent RBA decision to increase rates have to do with Howard? And unless you’re saying that Howard should be buying or in an even greener move making more land, land prices will always go up. More people trying to fit into the same amount of space means prices will go up. Stop being immature.

Terrorism

For starters, Muslim terrorists have always said that they would like to kill as many of us as possible, Bali was before Iraq, or have you forgotten that they have an inbred hatred of western society.

By the way your list of reasons gets a lot smaller when you take out the repeated points. Your “diverting resources” idea is crap as said before. Who posed no threat to us? That’s a little selfish don’t you think. Saddam certainly posed very imminent threats to everyone in his country.

That’s enough I could go on but can’t be bothered, there’s simply too much crap here. For all those reading who do actually have brains, think about what he writes don’t just swallow it.
on Oct 11, 2004
>>>>>13. What the? Latham voted to increase the cost. Also it may be the envy of poor people all over the world but Governments and economists around the world would be saying it has to die a hard death.

14. As before, the government won’t be able to afford them forever, the more people paying their own way the more the government can spend on other things.

15. And that’s his fault? How has he contributed to poor diets and as a result sicker people and the cost of medical equipment and care increasing?>>As for pre-emptive strikes, what the heck is your problem? You’d prefer to have Australians dead then have to deal with a little discomfort in the relationship with our neighbours for a little while? You’d put terrorists lives above our own? Besides if a neighbouring country wants to harbour terrorists then who wants them as friends anyway?<<<

That sort of attitude is exactly why Israel and Palestine probably aren't going to have peace for a very long time. Pre-emptive strikes make people angry and brood intergenerational resentment. Do you really want Indonesia and Australia to be at war for generations?

There so much crap in your post I can't even be bothered. You obviously can't think past the immediate future. I mean you don't even believe in the stolen generatio, that pretty much puts you in the same category as holocaust deniers.



on Oct 11, 2004
That sort of attitude is exactly why Israel and Palestine probably aren't going to have peace for a very long time.
So you’re saying that the fact that their respective cultures having been at war since biblical times was actually due to the pre-emptive strikes the Israelis made on terrorists in the Palestinians camps? Well who knew that?

Pre-emptive strikes make people angry and brood intergenerational resentment. Do you really want Indonesia and Australia to be at war for generations?
The Prime Minister, and his successors, in this case are between a rock and a hard place. If they act to protect Australian lives then they might upset their neighbours. If they don’t and, God forbid, we get attacked and Australians die then the Australian people would protest they did nothing. Damned if you do and damned if you don’t. I’d prefer our neighbours to be upset then have Australians dead.

And anyway I believe the question put the Prime Minister had something to do with a last resort type scenario. Of course he’d try to talk to the government in question about it. If that failed what would you have him do?

There so much crap in your post I can't even be bothered. You obviously can't think past the immediate future. I mean you don't even believe in the stolen generatio, that pretty much puts you in the same category as holocaust deniers.
Good point, since I provided an actual argument to back my case and you can’t provide any facts pick on me. Are you in formal debating? If not you should be, you’re sooooo good at it.
on Oct 12, 2004
I accidently deleted three of my points in my last post and can't remember exactly what I wrote but I'll try to rewrite it.

Incidently on your last point I was paraphrasing what you said to Champas at the end of your post:"That’s enough I could go on but can’t be bothered, there’s simply too much crap here. For all those reading who do actually have brains, think about what he writes don’t just swallow it." Nah, you never resort to personal attacks do you?!

>>>15. And that’s his fault? How has he contributed to poor diets and as a result sicker people and the cost of medical equipment and care increasing?>>>14. As before, the government won’t be able to afford them forever, the more people paying their own way the more the government can spend on other things.<<<<

So your idea is that people should work to death. Brilliant. It would probably cost the government less if the they paid carers extra too, not metion change some of the stupid laws that restrict who is eligible for a carers allowance (since it's less expensive than 24 hour care rates).

Speaking as someone who has two people in his family with chronic health complaints, one who had breat cancer, and has been carer I can say that the government system on these points is, using highly technical jargon, FUCKED.

on Oct 12, 2004
Shit one of my points is still missing. Why do my point keep on disappearing (I mean literally as opposed to "in a puff of logic").

15. And that’s his fault? How has he contributed to poor diets and as a result sicker people and the cost of medical equipment and care increasing?


Howard is responsible for rising health premiums. It was the incentive he used to get people to get private health insurance. He made them rise for anyone that didn't get it before 30th of June 2000 by 2% for every year over age 30. Here a link:

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2000/oct2000/aust-o04.pdf

I know it's not exactly an unbiased source (world socialist news) but since it is quoting a fact not an opinion it doesn't matter (I would have used a different source but since this is old news it is hard to find). So yes he was responsible for the premiums rising. Taking on lots of people who would of normally stuck to the public system due to obvious health risks (history of heart disease, diabetes etc.) would also force private insurance companies to put up premiums.